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Falklands visited by Punta Arenas experts in ports, logistics and shipping

Tuesday, May 20th 2014 - 19:35 UTC
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A group of managers representing Punta Arenas port facilities, logistic companies and shipping companies visited the Falkland Islands last week with an ultimate aim to offer solutions to the current and future commercial needs of the Islands. Read full article

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  • A_Voice

    last week!
    ...has any of the “supposed” islanders on this site mentioned their visit....must have been the talk of the town....
    If I missed it on one of the threads fair enough.....if not, why no mention....?

    May 20th, 2014 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    perhaps they need a border force
    like ours.
    Home Secretary launches new Border Force cutter to protect UK coastline
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-secretary-launches-new-border-force-cutter-to-protect-uk-coastline
    I welcome HMC Protector and our Border Force crew to HMS President today.

    And will join the other four.
    Her 4 sister cutters Seeker, Searcher, Vigilant and Valiant.
    At some 500 tonnes and up to 50m long, these are not insubstantial vessels
    Just a thought..
    p/s
    wont these people from Chile get arrested by argentine coppers for going to the British Falkland's
    just a thought..

    May 20th, 2014 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 2 Briton

    No, it's more like a border farce in Argie land nowadays.

    Piss up and brewery jumps to mind.

    May 20th, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Considering how many delegations have been going to the Islands lately, perhaps they are no longer the talk of the town.

    Just another day.

    May 20th, 2014 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    Oh, what sad little people at #1 and #4. The Falklands doesn't need to announce all it success stories overnight. Sometime its better to drip feed them while basking in our own sunshine. A more positive bunch of business folks we could not have wished to visit and offer great assistance and opportunities to develop our economic future. Sorry you're painfully disappointed with our continued successes. Ciao.

    May 21st, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Speaking to Penguin News Asmar Magallanes General Manager Marcelo Mahuzier and four other businessmen said the group visited with, “a commercial agenda,” and the intention of understanding, “what is going on around the Islands …

    They bought with them 4 suitcases full of blow up dolls for the locals to Indulge in as bribes. oh And 6 blow up sheep!

    May 21st, 2014 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Looks like Mr Market is coming to town.

    Politics? So called support for the Argentine 'position'?

    Nah, just follow the money. Chileans aren't stupid. They know which way this is going and want to get on board now.
    Good Luck to them!

    if only the Argies could see political sense in handing over control of the country to the FIG. I would like to see the formation of a Gran Falklands. Only way for Argentina to progress is to submit to the natural superiority of the Falklands.

    May 21st, 2014 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    If the Argentineans could just have dropped their “in 25 years...” dogma and stop brainwashing their kids then this might be them working with the Falklanders.

    For all the mines, poop in post offices, etc, who really thinks the Falklanders would continue to hold grudges for very long if BA would show even the most basic morals and recognize the Falklands and Falklanders for what they are.

    May 21st, 2014 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Soon the FIG will be able to buy Argentina outright and mortgage it back to them.

    May 21st, 2014 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    A simple visit to the islands and a simple demonstration of practicality.

    No wonder the Chileans are out performing their neighbours on the other side of the Andes.

    I have a feeling news of this visit is not going to go down well in BA. Cue allegations of treason by their Latin Brothers and the Chilean Ambassador being called in to explain.

    May 21st, 2014 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    What exactly is a 'supposed islander'?

    May 21st, 2014 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    I wonder if this commercial interest from Chile is part of the approval given by la Kretina of Chile's support viz z viz “malvinismo”?

    May 21st, 2014 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sergio Vega

    Nice to see my boss as part of this business group visiting our neighbors to offer our support to their industries, re taking our links with the Falklands.....We were an important support for them from long time up to Argentina intented to block the maritime transit between us and now Uruguay has became the main supplier to them....even the Uruguayan Gvt. is one of the harder supporters of the Argentine theory over the ownership of the Islands....
    Hope our own Gvt. won´t interfere with this business aproach to Falklands considering the red colour it has from late March and closeness between our useless Granny President and the bipolar at the other side of the Andes....
    It will be very important not to forget the contacts made and do the homework to carry this opportunity out to an actual stage as soon as possible for the better for the two of us.......We have the whole condition to be the Falklands gate to the world, so it´s just a matter to take advantage of it....

    May 21st, 2014 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @1
    “.....if not, why no mention....?”

    Simple. Argentina promises a lot that will never happen =perennial bullah1t

    The Falkland islanders wait until something is REALLY going to happen.

    Or to make it even more simple for you:

    Argentina deals with fairy tales and unfulfilled promises, FIG deals with reality
    and results.

    @2
    “wont these people from Chile get arrested by argentine coppers for going to the British Falkland's ”

    How big is the Argentine police's charge sheet now?

    I still haven't heard of anyone actually having been arrested, but I guess the paperwork backlog must be huge.

    @6
    “They bought with them 4 suitcases full of blow up dolls for the locals to Indulge in as bribes. oh And 6 blow up sheep!”

    Which have been forwarded onto the intended recipient Maximo Kirchener.
    However, I heard the blow up dolls refused sex with Maximo.

    @7
    “if only the Argies could see political sense in handing over control of the country to the FIG.”

    Then Argentina could sort themselves out and be successful.

    @8
    “If the Argentineans could just have dropped their “in 25 years...”

    Amusingly this will be' in 25 years time' this year, and 2015 and 2016 and even in 25 years time the Argentines will still insist the Island will be theirs in 25 years time. Notice how it's never in 25 years time, then 24 years time etc etc.

    @13
    ”.......We have the whole condition to be the Falklands gate to the world, so it´s just a matter to take advantage of it....”

    Exactly. the Argentines can't work out that the Islanders are not in a position to need financial help i.e they don't need aid-they have money to trade with and Chile may as well be the country to benefit.

    What some of the idiots running South America cannot work out is that the Islands have had a tradition of partial isolation and having to sort out their own problems so if these countries don't want to trade with the Islands, the Islands will simply trade with someone else even if it's on the other side of the world.

    May 21st, 2014 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • saphira

    @5 I think @4 was being a tadge sarcastic @1 to be fair.

    May 21st, 2014 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    @15, if so, apologies tendered to @4.

    May 21st, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    16
    If so...hahaha....If so..... are you blind as well as impersonating an islander....

    If there were any islanders on this site they would have been falling over themselves with this news to refute the Castro thread of needing mainland Argentina and also the Chile's renewed support thread...I would...
    The area I am in at the moment has a 15 thousand population catchment area....I know everything that is going on through gossip alone.....
    Imagine the isolated Falklands ...there has got to be feck all else to talk about...
    ....yet not a single murmur on here..
    Not natural.....or......

    May 21st, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    @1 and 16 - A_Voice

    It is quite simply really. They arrived 10th May and left on the 17th. As this MercoPress article refers to the Penguin News, which is published every Friday, the reporting happened at the back end of their trip to the Falklands. That is why you have failed to know of their trip as most of the knowledge comes from these stories than actually living in the islands.

    They are very nice people with a strong aim in mind to improve logistics with the Falklands. They don't want to do it out of the kindness of their heart, they see a business opportunity. The Falklands oil industry is at the centre of their minds.

    I like how you doubt there any Islander commentators on here. I like how my very existence proves that you are wrong. Btw, I am just watching a lovely orange and red sunrise in Stanley. Nice and calm today too and only a tiny bit of frost on my windshield this morning, which is a plus!

    So seeing as you are the hotbed of Falklands information and gossip A_Voice, tell me what you know and I will tell you how wrong you are.

    May 21st, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    18
    Out of the woodwork they now appear....
    too little too late....
    ...save your after the fact generalisations for someone stupid enough to believe them..
    ...er...I'm sat halfway up Mount Everest at the moment...pretty chilly with lots of snow, but clear skies for a change...doh!

    May 21st, 2014 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @6
    At least the Chileans brought something useful, unlike the Argies in 1982, leaving excrement in peoples homes and leaving thousands of land mines, do you now see why the FALKLANDERS do not want anything to do with Argentina. Castro saying the FALKLANDERS are better off under Argentina LMAO, could't make it up. Not one Argie has put in writing how the FALKLANDS are better off with Argie, comon Argies tell us.

    May 21st, 2014 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    @20 1./ You would have some good looking girls to breed with, a welcome change from sheep.
    2./ You could change the name of Cornish pasties to Empanada's.

    3./ You could help us vote the mad old cow out

    4./ We would stop calling you guys the FI's (Falkland Interbreds).

    May 21st, 2014 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    1/ The sheep are a safer bet and they whine less than Argentinean woman.

    2/ I've never come across potato in an empanada.

    3/ The mad cow is your problem. We're happy with our Head of State.

    4/ call them whatever you like. Sticks and stones. Hasn't had any effect so far.

    May 21st, 2014 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Perhaps CFK thinks she can dictate who goes to the Falkland's, and who does not,
    without the means to enforce it.
    just all talk..

    May 21st, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @1 It seems to me “Big Mouth” that the Falkland Islands Government waits to see what commercial “visitors” will say unless a “project” is under their complete control. Unlike some “people” like argies, scotch, urineguays.
    @6 I don't think something calling itself “Cling On” should be making such comments. Or did yours burst?
    @13 Hi Sergio. Nice to welcome some sanity back. Can't your boss tell Bachelet to play ball or else? Don't really think anybody's that interested in Urineguay.
    @17 “I would...” But then you're brainless. Head entirely filled with Big Mouth. How much funnier to wait until the deals have actually been done and started working and THEN announce it. Not everybody is like incompetent argies or scotch.
    @21 Four good reasons to have nothing to do with argies.
    1/ Lots of diseased things can look quite good until bits start dropping off. In the case of argie “girls” don't their tits drop to their bums around 35?
    2/ Cheese? In a Cornish pastie?
    3/ The mad old cow is your problem. You voted for her. Live with it. Even better, die with it.
    4/ Isn't that better than arrogant, belligent, corrupt, criminal, depraved, genocidal, ignorant, larcenous, mendacious, queer, rapacious, xenophobic degenerates? Who COULD I be talking about? Oh yes, every word describes an argie.

    May 21st, 2014 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    @19

    I really don't care what you believe. I just wanted to prove you wrong. But no need to believe me, I just like conversing with you and proving that you are wrong. It comes easy to me as you are nonsensical.

    Not really generalisations. Anyone who knows anything about the Falklands knows it is usually windy and for me to say it is calm, means it isn't a generalisation. Add in the fact that I described a striking sunrise I think you can say I was quite vivid in my description of Stanley harbour. Does all of this go against your sources of information and gossip? Are they telling you that the Islanders would prefer an Argentine Governor? I wouldn't be surprised if you heard and believed that considering your level of intelligence.

    So I will continue as I am. Smiling at your posts knowing that you are wrong about everything.

    May 21st, 2014 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    @ A_Voice
    “If there were any islanders on this site they would have been falling over themselves with this news to refute the Castro thread of needing mainland Argentina and also the Chile's renewed support thread”
    Why? We read Casto's article, had a good laugh and moved on. Was that thing supposed to be taken seriously?

    May 21st, 2014 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mick23

    I think the Islanders might do a lot better in the advice and counselling department than some NUMPTY'S from Punta Arenas.

    When it comes to building a more suitable port for the forthcoming explosion of Oil Industry vessels coming and going I believe there are far more suitable professionals out there. Try anywhere in Europe. Why not think to Norway or Scotland.

    I realize that they will want to maintain good relations with the Chilotes and that Sandy Point has been around for a long time BUT the last time I was in the twelfth region and had a wander around I wasn't too impressed.

    There is a big difference between some tourist ships and full on heavy industry vessels.

    Look before you leap..!

    May 21st, 2014 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @27
    I thought they were talking about logistics not building ports, Noble has already set up a floating dock ( for the forthcoming oil exploration in Q2 2015 ), they do not need anything larger at the moment.

    May 21st, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mick23

    Indeed golf buddy .. Logistics is what they want to sell and hopefully have PA as the port of choice... That will work for food supplies and the like as does already but the heavy gear isn't going to want to travel the straights... the primera angostura is chockers already.. It's too bad the Tano's are such fookwits .. Rio Gallegos could be a boom town...

    May 21st, 2014 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    Why are the “malvinistas” so lacking in originality in their comments? They really do make such fools of themselves - are there any adults amongst them?

    May 21st, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    It really is a win-win for Uruguay and Chile to improve commercial ties with the FI. Chile already provides cultural ties, human resources, an air link and commercial links. The only restrictions of course is the air corridor is strictly controlled with limitations. If they were to close the route, probably DAP of Chile would take a far southerly route with a special weekly charter, leaving LAN out of the reprisals that would occur. That of course is as long as our president keeps her girdle in place...
    FYI, I am reliably informed that there are Chilean empanadas on sale each weekend from one of our citizens there.

    May 21st, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mikey48

    This is a win win with these people from puntas arenas of chile with the meetings and trade talks between the the two countrys,its what one calls a great deal by all parties,we all win.

    May 21st, 2014 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Hmmmm...

    Felipe Carvallo, Milenko Buljan, Ignacio Covacevic, Marcelo Mahuzier and Alvaro Insua...

    Their names will go on the “Lizt”...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1HwKA0J-gU

    May 21st, 2014 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    @33, Felipe Carvallo, Milenko Buljan, Ignacio Covacevic, Marcelo Mahuzier and Alvaro Insua will be enjoying business and making money with us here while you (Think) will be sitting in your sad little world still moaning and being jealous of the Falklands and it's people.

    May 21st, 2014 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    @24 “Isn't that better than arrogant, belligent, corrupt, criminal, depraved, genocidal, ignorant, larcenous, mendacious, queer, rapacious, xenophobic degenerates? Who COULD I be talking about? Oh yes, every word describes an argie.”

    The words Pot, kettle, black spring to mind

    May 22nd, 2014 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    13 Sergio Vega “We were an important support for them from long time”
    That's right Sergito...you were.
    Nice to see you at the compañero Popeye Cárdenas funeral.

    33 Think
    Congratuleiyon gayina, not bad for a B team :-)

    May 22nd, 2014 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    @19 first blanket of snow of the winter on the ground in Stanley! A bit cold and windy out there too!

    I thought I would let you know as you like my 'generalisations'!

    May 22nd, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    1 A_Voice

    No, it wasn't 'talk of the town'. I didn't know anything about it until I saw it in the Penguin News. Why should I?

    No mention because we don't find it necessary to troll every thread with unrelated information.

    May 22nd, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Marcos- wrong- there is good chance that a shipping link will be up and running again by the spring.

    May 22nd, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (39) Islander1
    I bet the ~50$ in my wallet that it won't....

    May 22nd, 2014 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 40 Lunatic
    “I bet the ~50$ in my wallet that it won't”

    50 Pesos, eh? That’s about US$ 4.25 or £2.57!

    Now what can you buy for £2.57?

    The Lunatic of Chew Butt, obviously.

    What a cheapskate.

    May 22nd, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    Ah, the good old days!
    In reading “The F.I. Magazine” of November 1903, I learn that the Chilean school-ship “Baquedano”, commanded by Captain Gomez, visited Stanley on November 8th, and saluted the British flag with 21 guns, a compliment that was immediately returned by the shore battery. More powder was burnt when visits were received from the Governor, the Chilean Consul and the Consul for the United States of America.
    The question that should be raised is why today Chile's navy ships do not visit the Falklands anymore. Are there any good solid reasons for that? And why there are no more consular officials in Stanley?

    Philippe

    May 23rd, 2014 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    $50 at parallel (lechuga verde) in Venenezuela is Bsf 3500
    $50 at the Bolivarian Government Exchange Rate (BCV)... is BSF 315

    Hardly worth brushing the cobwebs off your ancient wallet eh, Voicey/Think?

    What you gonna buy with BSF315, at tomato? Welcome back home to Socialist Latin America..

    May 23rd, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @33

    “Felipe Carvallo, Milenko Buljan, Ignacio Covacevic, Marcelo Mahuzier and Alvaro Insua...

    Their names will go on the “Lizt”...”

    Ha ha-like all the oil workers that haven't been arrested yet?

    This list is going to be very long but exactly like Argentina-impotent.

    May 23rd, 2014 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I am awfully interested to know just HOW the Argentine Government intends to arrest all these people.

    Are they going to sail into international waters and starting pulling unarmed foreign nationals off of their boats?
    Are they going to send Police snatch squads into sovereign nations?

    I'm not sure if they have thought this one through. ...

    May 23rd, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @45

    My theory is that they send Malvanistas armed with tyres-set them all on fire to send out a smokescreen and grab the vicious criminals and smuggle them to Argentina hidden in the tyres they don't burn.

    The tyres will be useful when in Argentina to hide in when the SAS knock on the door asking to free the hostages-and they can roll away in the tyres hoping the SAS won't notice.

    I can also reveal that the next Argentine plan to invade the Falklands will involve aircraft armed with tyres to drop on every single UK servicemen pinning their arms to the side-they will then set fire to 40 million tyres in Tierra del Fuego that will send a smokescreen over on a westerly that will turn day into night in the Falklands.

    Then the replica Sarandi (made out of tyres) sets sail with the invasion force, manned by 80 per cent British mercenaries (as per 1833) who will probably-like 1833-refuse to fight their fellow countrymen.

    Not sure whether this plan will succeed?

    May 24th, 2014 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 46 Pete Bog
    “Not sure whether this plan will succeed?”

    Oh Pete! You are giving the argie military valuable ideas! You KNOW how they stay up all day and night trying to think of anything as good as this.

    ;o)

    May 24th, 2014 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @46 Pete

    Oh my God! I never knew about the 'tyre' plan!!!!

    Wow, they must have put their best top-brains onto this one! No wonder their economy is so messed up when all their best people are working on this dastardly plan!

    Thank the Lord we still have the (shushhh...!) SPS!

    hmm...

    Let's dig deep and await their attack.

    Then respond.

    hmmmm...
    should all be over in about 4 minutes...

    oh, let's be generous...

    5 minutes. (without even using the Stealth P******s, or employing the D***h S**r).

    Keep stchum!!

    May 25th, 2014 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @47 ChrisR and @48 Ilsen

    “Wow, they must have put their best top-brains onto this one! ”

    Yes, no less than Maximo the brilliant himself.

    I hear there are a few problems with the tyre plan.

    Maximo (in true Argentine style) hasn't paid Quickfit yet, and hasn't yet chartered an aircraft to drop the tyres, (he asked the FAA but they were busy trying to source spare parts for their aircraft).

    Be very scared, the tyre plan is only in place because the Malvinas Chunnel being dug by Malvanistas from B A to 'Puerto Luis' has only got to 315metres since 1982 (delayed by siestas, BBQ breaks and regular attendance at the tyre burning society meets). Latest estimates from INDEC indicate that the chunnel (Operation Mestivier) will reach the Falklands in 2533.

    May 25th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 49 Pete Bog

    I thought it would be the infamous “25 years from now”.

    You just have to laugh at this bunch “in charge” of The Dark Country.

    May 25th, 2014 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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